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 Post subject: Subsidence in Luzerne county.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:47 pm 
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Subsidence Threatens Two Homes

Posted: April 9, 2008 11:42 AM EDT

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Two families will have to clear out of their homes because of a mine subsidence in Luzerne County.

The subsidence is between two homes in a development in Drifton, outside of Hazleton.

It's damaged the basement of one home and caused shifting in the other home.

State and federal mining officals are expected to take a look.

One of the families said there was another subsidence there nearly 30 years ago.

Credit :http://www.wnep.com/Global/story.asp?S=8141194

Thought I would post it up. I jumped when I heard it on the news.

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Two families were forced from their homes because of mine subsidence. It's between two homes in a development outside Hazleton and mining officials said it could get worse, and even bigger.

Officials are so worried about the hole they have closed Route 940 between Hazleton and Freeland until further notice as a precaution. PennDOT is working on a detour around the area.

Drifton Estates is an area that has experienced mine subsidence before and now the ground has given way again.

The soil has dropped between two homes and slowly the buildings are sliding toward the abandoned underground mine. It has swallowed part of one foundation and threatens a second.

"I heard the noise this morning and I didn't pay much attention to it," said homeowner Joe O'Day. It sounded, "Like a plant fell over or something and then I heard scraping like on the side of the house."

"I really heard the rumbling and I knew from past experience what it was so I yelled to him to get up and get out of the house quick," said Margaret Bicile.

Emergency officials ordered the homes evacuated. The homeowners were packing their possessions. State and federal experts hope to come up with a fix.

"It could move again. The walls are dirt lined. There is no bedrock and if we do get rain that could aggravate the situation and it could open up and get larger," said Mike Walsh of the Department of Environmental Protection.

A UGI crew dug up a major natural gas line Wednesday to check its condition. The line feeds the Poconos. Some fear if the subsidence spreads, it could crack the pipe and catch fire.

"That would be a catastrophe so that's why we're getting a plan together so we can avoid any kind of catastrophe. We don't want that," said Hazle Township Fire Chief Scott Kostician.

State officials said over the winter months there was a subsidence about 100 years away that opened up into the mines. It also opened about 29 years ago near the same place. Some are angry and frustrated.

"After the first cave-in they filled everything in and told us everything is perfectly safe," Bicile added. "And the cave-in now happened in the same area as it did in 1979. I can't do this again. I'm too old to do it over again. When this first happened I was in my 40s. I was able to fix the house but I can't do it again."

The O'Day family has mine subsidence insurance covering the damage to their home. The Bicile family does not. They blame government officials who they said assured them 1979 mine subsidence fix was permanent.

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there is a huge mine in drifton. it was one of the major collieries in the hazelton area. i saw t he channel 16s report on it at 6 and the newspaper clip from the 70s appeared like a huge hole. not sure on the pitch of the coal there. could be a number of things, cropfall, airshaft or haulage shaft failure or filled slope opening subsiding. i do know this mine was accessible about 10 years ago but the opening is now buried at the bottom of a filled in stripping pit. have access to some great pictures of underground there. it went down 3 levels, with pitch workings and flat workings in the basin. there was no mine pool here as it is drained by the jeddo tunnel. at least thats what im told.

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You are surely a man of wisdom.

I'm looking foward to the 3 coal mine tours you have coming up!

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man of wisdom? :roll:

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yea, looks like he spoke a bit too soon. :roll: lets see if he feels the same after he meets us on saturday. :lol:

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Is my girlfriend going to think who the hell are these people my boyfriend associates with?- :lol:

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im not guaranteeing anything :twisted:

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Hahahahaha............................

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reminds me of my wife telling me "your not flying with your idiot friends in there P.O.S. airplanes"

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Digger wrote:
reminds me of my wife telling me "your not flying with your idiot friends in there P.O.S. airplanes"


lol :lol:

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hey...... duct tape is alot stronger than they claim it to be...........

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Ya duct tape and bailing twine!!!!!!! YEEHAAW

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This topic has certainly gone off topic. And with me posting it's only adding... :lol:

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