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Allison was bought by Daimler Chrysler along with Detroit Diesel. I don't think Ford runs Detroits in anything really although you could maybe get them in their big trucks. The power stroke is a International Harvester engine, maybe that is what your thinking of.

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OH OH OH That was my bad... yeah Fords run internationals :oops:

that was a spoof..

yeah the old detroits were in the c/k chevys and gmcs (the old 6.5s) and they were junk from what ive heard. They were based on a gas motor block, weren't they??

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No detroit engines are a whole different animal Banks. Mostly used in Semi trucks & heavy equipment (earthmovers etc), buses & some industrial locomotives. The original ones were screamers & run at a high rpm. You can spot them a mile away especially if it had straight exhaust.

I used to work on 53, 60, 71, and 92 series engines. All leaked oil but always ran fine & very easy to rebuild.

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For some reason, I'm thinking that some of the Detroit's ran a strange stroke/ valve combination more like a 2-stroke than a 4.


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The original ones were screamers & run at a high rpm. You can spot them a mile away especially if it had straight exhaust.


I love that sound. Especially through the tunnels on the Pike. With the jake on.
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those are some sweet lookin old trucks shana!

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my neighbor still runs an R-model mack with a lowboy for his excavation business.

it seems like theres always something going wrong with them in the pickups though from some stuff i read. they don't put out as much power as the internationals and the cummins...?

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Thats because they aren't ( I'm going to catch flack for this) a real truck engine. The cummins that Dodge uses can be found in everything from School Buses, Bucket Trucks, Dump Trucks, Generators, Compressors, Heavy Equipment and the same goes for the Ford engine, at least the 7.3 not sure about the new one. That one GM uses is just for the pickups. By the way, we still have a crap load of R model Macks at Jeddo and two or three B models still going strong.

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I especially liked the shovel on the low boy.


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I guess what I don't get is that Dodge makes both the fastest and the most powerful trucks. So what do people put Dodge down for having the only fast pickup truck?

Hell, the Dodge work truck with the Cummins puts out 425 HP. The Ford 6.4 only puts out 325 or 350 HP.

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And from what I have heard, Dodge has the resale value of a used Kleenex.


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I've driven a Cummins in a coach bus and a big truck.
Don't like 'em. They seem sluggish to me.
A good old CAT does it every time nowadays.

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thats probably i think cause they're built more for low end torq..

actually, I have to admit, the dodges with the cummins have the highest resale value of any pick-up... the gas jobs..eehhh i don't know.

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