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 Post subject: Old plane crash site
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:37 pm 
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I'm not sure if there are any plane fanatics here :wink: but while reading about a abandon RR tunnel I explored in NJ, I found this :

http://lostinjersey.wordpress.com/2009/ ... dentified/


Fun... now to find the location.


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That wasn't fun, it took only a minute to find info.


http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/image ... 13a00aabbe


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well thats cool! id be up for going and checking it out..... maybe next time we are out that way to see the jersey boys and some of their new findings we can stop by and check this thing out! it does look just like a T-33 gonna have to research the differences.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T2V_SeaStar

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pretty cool! I,ve hiked in to the C-119 crash sit ein perry co. PA

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oh yea, have any photos of that? supposedly back in the 50s a dc6 crashed in mount carmel after it had 3 engines fail and it was attempting to land. broke out of the clouds in a valley with no where to go, went for a strip mine clearing and clipped the coal breaker with the wing. there is still wreckage down there too. id like to go find that one as well. theres more info on that on the anthracite history yahoo group.

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I didn't have a camera withe me, found a new-looking monument right along the back road, 3 crew were killed crash happened in 1956, there is a marked trail to the site

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Neat! That would be cool to find the one in the Mt. Carmel area too.

My take on this one, fuel starvation as there was no post-crash fire. The wings are there so those trees obviously were not there at the time of the crash. Could be engine failure too, since the fuselage is very well intact. Looks like an emergency landing in a field or open area before the trees were there and looks surviveable, although a hard landing can be fatal but the fuselage can look fine. Good example is Jim LeRoy.

What I found on the Mt. Carmel one was that there was a false fire warning in the forward cargo hold. The crew emptied the CO2 bottle to extinguish the "fire" but did not depresurize. They were overcome by the CO2 entering the cockpit so no one was flying the plane.

The Civil Aeronautics Board investigated the crash and published a narrative describing the following sequence of events in its final report:[1]

The airplane, named "Mainliner Utah", arrived in Chicago at 09:52 en route from Los Angeles to New York. After a 52-minute turnaround, the DC-6 departed for New York. The airplane climbed en route to its planned altitude of 17,000 feet. At 12:23, and at 12:27 the crew made a routine acknowledgment of a clearance to descend en route to an altitude between 13,000 and 11,000 feet. A little later a fire warning led the crew to believe that a fire had erupted in the forward cargo hold. They then discharged at least one bank of the CO2 fire extinguisher bottles in the forward cargo hold. Because they did not follow the correct procedure, the cabin pressure relief valves were closed. This caused hazardous concentrations of the gas to enter into the cockpit. These concentrations reduced the pilots to a state of confused consciousness probably resulting in loss of consciousness. An emergency descent was initiated until it described a shallow left turn, heading towards constantly rising terrain. Five miles east of Shamokin the airplane, flying only 200 feet above the ground, entered a right climbing turn. As it passed to the north of Mt. Carmel, the climbing turning attitude increased sharply. The airplane then crashed in a power line clearing on wooded hillside at an elevation of 1,649 feet. The airplane struck a 66,000 volt transformer, severed power lines and burst into flames.

Investigation revealed that the fire warning in the cargo compartment had been false.

Ya, that report was a cut-and-paste.

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Here's a Wikipedia page about the crash with photos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_624

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ha mike you just beat me to it. i was just going to post that. there are 2 good photos on the site. the breaker that it nearly missed is in the one shot.

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