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 Post subject: Ohio Vintage Coal Co. Anthracite Mancha Trammer restoration
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:08 am 
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Ohio Vintage Coal Co. had (3) members from the group that decided that a Mancha Trammer needed to be saved. Originally these units were never utilized in Anthracite until much later when a group of miners decided to incorporate them into Anthracite Southern Field coal mines.

A trammer is the SMALLEST built storage battery mine locmotive weighing a total of 1-1/2 tons. :shock:

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The original purpose of the trammer is to replace a hand trammer. A good strong man weighing 175lbs will exert 20-25lbs push parellel to the track. He would rarely turn out 25,000 net ton feet on an 8 hour shift.

Tha Mancha trammer will do the work of 8-12 strong men & that is where the name Mancha little trammer came from.

This trammer was built by Mancha / Goodman & was capable of having the end motorman compartment folded up to be lowered in deep hard rock mines (mostly Gold, Silver, Copper & Nickel).

This unit is a Mancha type "B" trammer

Check out our Mancha Link on our site:

www.ohiovintagecoal.com

Mancha link:

http://industrialrail.5u.com/photo_8.html

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:24 am 
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Forgot this part:

O.K. we picked this up on the same day we moved the UGM Mucker in January of 2008.

We just brought this piece of equipment into our shop this past weekend. We did our initial inspection and here is what we have to do:

--Battery box missing- - -Make "new" battery box assembly
--Controller needs completely rebuilt
--Axles need removed & machine NEW ones for 36" gauge operation
--Fabricate new floor for trammer operator compartment
--Shorten front bumper
--Completely rewire entire trammer
--Remove traction motor for inspection
--Install new axle seals
--Machine brake handle
--Remachine (4) wheels
--Purchase (4) batteries
--Body work, Paint, & final detail

Looks complicated for that little locomotive

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:27 am 
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Nice work on that battery box, we have a plasma cutter at work and its what we used on our battery box top pannels. fun tool! but yea she is lookin good. last time we saw that thing we didnt think it needed that much work. looks like you boys have you work cut out for you for the next.......what..... week? :lol: but yea lookin good!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:44 am 
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First look at things will always catch you by surprise. Every time we bring one in it always is more work than initial inspection. Oh Well. It would be nice to get one with less work for a change.

Those were cut on a CNC plasma unit. I thought you just had a hand held plasma.

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Nice job on that trammer, can't wait to see the end result!


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Well we made some phone calls today on an experiment :idea: on the new fabricated battery box. :idea:

We are going to have a RHINO COATING rubber liner sprayed inside. We think it will be easier to clean & won't corrode the box out from the batteries. It will also keep the batteries from sliding around. It should also quiet the box from banging around too.

I have never seen or heard of this done on a mining battery box so it should be cool if it works correct.

I have thoroughly tested this product in my super duty truck & I can say hands down the best liner we have ever had :!:

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Yeah we have it in ours too.. can't beat it. That should work out pretty awesome. Do you have to take it to a shop for the application? Our truck already had it in it. I wonder what the rhino guys will think of that!

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FUN FACT :!:

Did you guys know that Rhino lining was originally developed for underground Diamond mines. The mines needed a heavy duty coating to reduce wear on buckets & ore cars. The rubberized coating was developed & was successful then latter adapted to pick-up truck bed liners. This information was provided to us by our local distributor of this product.

See if you guys come up with the same thing :?:

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Very nice work! Is the new battery box correct for the trammer you are restoring, or is this an educated guess? Looks very good so far, good work!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:32 am 
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holy hook thats a cool fact..

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The box is actually a type "B" Mancha trammer battery box. It is the largest of the (3) style boxes (A-C) to choose from & we picked this to accomodate equipment batteries so everything fits no problem.

Ray had a basic print that we converted to autocad which helped us obtain the missing data. The autocad then also helped us generate our CNC files for the plasma cutting.

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That fact is awesome! and the restoration is cool too 8) keep the pics comin...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:01 pm 
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Very nice. Seems rather high tech for mining and restoration, but hey ... there is no better way.

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Greg, actually with using this technology we are able to fill the gaps in. We can take a sales brochure & turn it into an engineered drawing. The below end view of the battery box only provides us with only three dimensions.

--Now that leaves us with what diameter are the battery vent holes?

--What are the angles of the battery lids?

--What spacing are the vent holes?

--Etc, Etc

CAD & CNC technology has been a life saver for us on many of our restoration projects. It helps to eliminate the educated GUESSES :?:

Since the factory is out-of-business we are now able to generate our own engineered drawing to create a "NEW" factory spec box.

RESTORATION AT ITS FINEST,


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Just updated the website. This was a major restoration project for our group. It is good to see another piece of Anthracite history preserved and running again.

Project update

Link: http://industrialrail.5u.com/manchatrammer.html
Website: http://www.ohiovintagecoal.com

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