about 6 cars on their side, rails destroyed and parts strewn all over the place. a pretty good one. got some pics but my upload tool is not operational right now. ill get them up hopefully tomorrow.

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nice! i see you got my message!

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yea i got it during work, for some reason my phone didnt ring. met up with adam to go investigate something else in scranton so i stopped by and shot a few pics but the news shots are better. ill get them up when i can anyways.

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I know that area has had a history of derailments. iIbelieve about four years ago there was a fairly large derailment. in that area . It has always had a drainage problem, and there is little ballast in spots. Then one other consideration. We all know what it looks like under the right of way. Could something have settled ? I remember about 15 yrs ago I used to walk to the Taylor yards to see a few friends that worked there. Right before the north end of the yard I noticed a depression about fifty feet long. The tacks slid about three feet sideways into the depression. ( mine related). Donny Wyden ( maintainer at the time) gave me a ride to show him. He had to immediately shut down traffic. So subsidences do happen under the right of ways.

like this one............



this was up in archbald on the delaware and lackawanna line a few years ago.
still working on getting up my pics of this one though. yea tony its funny, like you said we have been right under where this happend in that drift and it is bad there! the mine is reinforced with steel supports where it goes under the rail bed but something could have let go on either side of that.

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Took a look at the handy dandy maps , and being my favorite mine I kinda memorized them. It seems the four foot bed ( which we traveled in before the drift got sealed) is only 18 feet below the tracks. This includes three feet of " "wash" ( soil ) so there is only 15 foot or fock cover. The flushing project ( ASP No.2) did not extend below the railroad tracks. ( although original plans called for the stabilization of the rail road). So could it have settled ? I guess ?

Hey Chris. I think that archabald subsidence is the only one we got to see above and below ground. A first ?

yea too bad i didnt have a camera that day, that was wild how the concrete flowed down into that chamber and all the old timber stopped it and made a plug. cool stuff. to this day there is still a dip in the track over that subsidence. wonder if they notice it running across it, maybe dixon will fill us in on that one of these days!

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I know of another bad spot. In my train days I used to go to Coxton yard in Pittston from Taylor with the pre DL operators of the county owned tracks via the old Bloomsburg branch. Right before the branch crosses the lackawanna river in Old Forge there is one hell of a dip ( ie. subsidence) This would be right by the Old Forge colliery.